judiciaries committee. Making a request for a second special counsel. That was made with savings. — Jeff Sessions. Two chairman men are with me now. Bob and tray. Thanks for your time here. You state matters have arisen. What changed?

>> What changed for me there are two dozen witnesses that Horowitz would not have access to. Let the inspector general do it. Mike Horowitz has no jurisdiction over witnesses who never worked there. When I counted up 24 witnesses that he would not be able to access were he to investigate it, only one conclusion. That’s special counsel.

>> Who is on that list?

>> Everybody from Jim Comey to Mccabe, Sidney bloomenthal. Anybody who no longer works for the department of justice or the FBI. State Department employees were feeding information to fusion gps. Anyone who is not an employee of doj Horowitz doesn’t have subpoena power for them.

>> There was a report that Mccabe was the leaker of the Hillary Clinton report S. That true?

>> I don’t know.

>> You said about the FISA courts. Specifically the process was abused. How?

GOODLATTE: Well, it was abused by a gathering of information from a very suspect source, not disclosing that information to the court. In my opinion, getting authority to look into the background of an American citizen’s life on questionable circumstances. That’s a very serious concern. The FBI is America’s premier law enforcement organization. Every day thousands and thousands of great men and women keep us safe. Investigate crime and prevent terror attacks. But several people at the top of this organization have engaged in activities that are questionable. I think that in order to set the record straight, clear what is going on in the FBI and make sure this doesn’t happen again, we need to have an outside special counsel investigation.

>> Let me read from your letter on the screen. You write there was evidence of bias. There is evidence political opposition research was used in court fileings and: Do you have evidence that the department of justice was spying on the trump team during the election?

>> That’s whether you consider Carter Page to be part of the trump team? Absolutely. This whole FISA warrant was on Carter Page. You would also pick up conversations that Carter Page was having with others. The answer to that question, de facto is yes.

>> Do you agree?

>> I agree. It’s premised on the idea that Mr. Page was involved with something they wanted to investigate. I think the case that was built for that is highly suspect.

>> What is wrong with the ig doing his job?

>> Nothing. I want him to go ahead. He has a couple of tasks. One is to complete the investigation into how the FBI handled the Clinton email matter. That’s separate. He’s looked at more than one million documents. That should be made public. The attorney general tasked him with looking into this matter as well. As trey noted, he can’t do the complete job.

>> Do you trust the attorney general?

>> I definitely welcome the attorney general encouraging that aspect of the investigation. I think more needs to be done. I think the way to do that that helps the attorney general and the deputy attorney general and the department of justice and the FBI is to take it outside of those organizations so the American people can see this properly investigated.

>> Some may suggest Congress can do this job. What is wrong with that?

>> Anyone who watched Congress over the last 12 months. We leak like sieves. The executive branch investigation the local district attorney or Bob Mueller there are fewer leaks from Mueller than from Adam ship. We don’t have the tools. We don’t have access to a grand jury. We can’t grant immunity or compel testimony. He don’t prosecute crime. There are 1,000 reasons to let the executive branch or special counsel handle this as opposed to Congress.

>> You don’t know where special leads. You start with a land deal in Arkansas and end up with a blue dress. You have no control over that.

>> Hmmm. You can set the jurisdiction in attorney general sessions appoints special counsel he will set the jurisdiction. The only reason Mueller can go where he is now, is because that jurisdiction allows him to pursue other matters that may arise. You can limit the jurisdiction.

>> There was a suggestion today that if the house Phillips in November he would lose control of the issue.flips in November he would lose control of the issue.

>> I don’t think we will lose control of the house. This has to be done in a more orderly fashion than when it becomes a political football as this issue has in the house intelligence committee and Congress. We will do our oversight duties. A more thorough investigation that can get to the bottom of the matter and do it in a way that can result in the FBI’s reputation being restored and changes being made is best done with the special counsel.

>> When will you get a responsible to your letter from the attorney general.

>> We don’t know but open that’s soon.

>> Will you get an answer?

>> Hmmm, I don’t know that we will get a formal answer. The fact that he doesn’t appoint one is an answer. He doesn’t owe us a formal explanation. I think it would be wise for him to give us one. We don’t routinely call for special counsel. This is unique and compeling.