WARREN: “Is this part of the reason?”

FARMER: “Yes, it’s part of the reason.”

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WARREN: “Part of the reason’s on the front-end where it all gets produced and then part of it on the backend in terms of —“

FARMER: “We grow girl these large amounts of commodities that go for fuel or for feed the livestock, which we should less than corn. [inaudible] are not designed to eat corn, but yet I would say we shouldn’t get rid of them. You know, the Green New Deal says we need to get rid of cows. I don’t agree with that because well managed grassland where you rotationally graze, all these paddocks like that, system there has about eight different paddocks — you’re actually going to use more CO2 and sequester more carbon because of the regrowth all the time. And yet, you know, that’s a permanent pasture. So anyway, my point is we have become so ignorant of the basic principles of biology in food production that we have said, ‘We answer them all through technology,’ instead of a letting Mother Earth and having respect:”