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Gowdy on AOC’s Comments on Rise in NYC Crime : ‘Anyone Who Believes in Logic Will Take Issue with Her Stance’

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SMITH: “So what is sparking this crime surge in New York City? Republicans putting the blame on some controversial state legislation like bail reform leading to this headline: GOP urges justice policy reversals after crime spike. Joining us now Trey Gowdy, former Chairman of the House Oversight Committee and Fox News contributor. Good morning to you and thanks for being here. So I’ll leave the question —“

GOWDY: “Good morning.”

SMITH: “— open-ended to you. What is causing this crime spike in New York City?”

GOWDY: “I think it was a couple of things, number one is the culture of lawlessness. I mean, you can’t berate the police for months and months, you also can’t have a list of crimes that are worth enforcing and ones that are not. I mean, look at the mess it’s been sent over the last couple of months. Arson is OK, destroying public property is OK, but God forbid that you like to Peter Strzok or Adam Schiff. So it’s a culture of lawlessness. I can also tell you this, Sandra, I was in a criminal court room for almost two decades. There is a really limited number of people that are going to hurt you, Sandra. Really limited number of your fellow citizens that want to hurt or kill you. So, the best thing for you is to separate them from you. Whether that be in prison or in jail awaiting trial. So when you have bail reform or bond reform you are letting people out that otherwise in the past would have been detained until their trial date. So if 95 percent of our fellow citizens are good people and law-abiding and people of good conscience, just identify the 5 percent and separate them from society, that’s the way to get crime to go down.”

SMITH: “Well, it’s interesting depending on who you ask, that is your take, Trey. But Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the Congresswoman from New York, claims that this is about unemployment and she made a lot of headlines for suggesting that this is about residents who need to shoplift some bread for their families. She’s doubling down on that in the brand-new tweet she says this: ‘Republicans are all upset that I’m connecting the dots between poverty and crime. I know most of them haven’t experienced or seen these issues firsthand but I have. This may be hard for them to admit, but poverty and crime are highly linked, both violent and nonviolent alike. Your response?”

GOWDY: “God forbid my two — my two decades in the courtroom compared with her experience as a bartender, Sandra. Was the 1-year-old holding a loaf of bread? Was the 1-year-old killed in New York because that child was holding a loaf of bread. I mean, poor people are no more likely to cause you harm than rich people are. That is not the line of demarcation. It is not whether you are rich or poor it is whether you are law-abiding or not law-abiding. So, the spike in murder cases, the spike in theft, the spike in burglaries, what in a hell does that have to do with people being hungry? I’ll give you one other way. Go check the criminal histories of the people committing these murders. See how many of them were committing their first criminal offense since the pandemic started and see how many of them are career offenders, or this is just the culmination of a life-time of crime that resulted in murder. I bet you they are not first-time offenders.”

SMITH: “So you are firing right back and, you make the case that you are a Republican making that point. However, Andrew Cuomo, the governor of New York takes her on and says this.”

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CUOMO: “It is factually impossible that somebody committed a crime so they could pay their rent. If you can’t pay your rent, you cannot be evicted right now.”

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SMITH: “He’s the Democratic governor of New York and he is clearly taking — taking issue with her stance on that.”

GOWDY: “Yeah. I think anyone that — that believes in logic will take issue with her stance. I mean, I — you can’t be evicted in New York, so how can you be killing people because you are being evicted. This is a state, and a city run by Democrats. So if they are having a hard time getting bread she needs to look at her own party and not blame Republicans.”

Rusty Weiss

Rusty Weiss is a freelance journalist focusing on the conservative movement and its political agenda. He has been writing conservatively charged articles for several years in the upstate New York area, and his writings have appeared in the Daily Caller, American Thinker,, Big Government, the Times Union, and the Troy Record. He is also Editor of one of the top conservative blogs of 2012, the Mental Recession.

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