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AOC: We Shouldn’t Make ‘Large Political Decisions’ with POTUS in ‘a Perilous Medical State’


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MADDOW: “Joining us live is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of the great state of New York. Her district has been called the epicenter of the epicenter. It’s nice to see you. Thanks for making time tonight.”

OCASIO-CORTES: “Of course. Thank you for having me.”

MADDOW: “I’ve seen some of your initial reaction online to this decision by the president that there will be no COVID-related help to the American people at all before the election. But I wanted to ask you specifically in the context of your district because your district has been so hard-hit, what do you think the impact of this decision will be?”

OCASIO-CORTES: “Well, you know, I think new York’s 14th congressional district is really a microcosm for the entire country. And we’re also a bellwether. Whenever the country is about to go through something incredibly traumatic and severe, it often hits my district first. We saw this with COVID and the pandemic. Our district was hit heaviest and hardest first before the waves started echoing across the nation in terms of COVID cases spiking. And we’re already starting to see warning signs of the severe economic and health fallout that is to come. We are on the brink of an eviction crisis, a mass eviction crisis here in our district but also across the country. 30 million to 40 million people are at risk of being evicted because the president has decided to walk away from every working person in this country. Now, that’s before we even get to mortgages. It’s before we get to unemployment extension. It’s before we get to an another second stimulus check. In addition, just as we’re entering the fall, we are at risk of a second spike. And what we are seeing here in New York City, which is a city that has some of the strictest COVID guidelines and some of the highest rates of mask-wearing adherence in the country, we are still starting to experience areas where there’s a second — where there’s kind of a second spike. Nine zip codes in New York City are at risk of being shut down totally or partially due to a secondary fall wave. Now, if we decide and if the president and the GOP follow through with walking away from COVID relief, we are looking at one of — we are staring down the barrel at one of the largest mass eviction crises in the history of this country since the Great Depression. That’s what we’re looking at. We’re looking at a potential second wave that could be catastrophic. We are looking at the potential of hunger in the United States exploding on a level that we have never seen since the great Depression. And all of it is preventable. All of it. All we need to do is authorize a second stimulus check. We need to make sure that we get state and local funding so that municipal governments can stay above water at least through the end of the year. We need to make sure that we are funding large-scale testing and tracing programs. And we need to make sure that we’re really developing a vaccine responsibly and not pushing one out for the sake of an election.”

MADDOW: “One of the things that I think is so baffling about this decision, I mean, even if you ignore the real world impact that you were just talking about there at length and detail and with eloquence, even if you ignore the real world impact, politically this is something that is inexplicable. We are four weeks from the election. The American people are in a tough situation coast to coast. Some of the states that are having the biggest spikes right now are deep red states that are very supportive of the president and they are radio-in pain right now both in terms of COVID and economic impact of it. It’s strange to me. And I don’t understand it. It makes me watch for a potential reversal here or some sort of move behind the curtain that we’re not expecting. I wanted to ask you though how you think this interacts with the president being diagnosed and what appears to be a large White House cluster and all of these people in Republican politics and the upper echelons of the White House testing positive? That just seems like one other element of this that makes this decision almost unbelievable, let alone a surprise.”

OCASIO-CORTES: “You know, it is unbelievable. And on one hand, you know, I think that they’re just kind of drinking their own kool-aid. They really started to believe that masks didn’t matter, that rapid tests, which we had known were less effective, were acceptable before a mass superspreading event. They didn’t even seat those — they didn’t even put those seats six feet apart outside. So, there’s a certain just basic denial of science and lack of acceptance of science that we’re looking at. But, you know, additionally, the president is not in a good condition. He just was diagnosed with COVID. His oxygen levels were in perilously low areas over the weekend that were extremely concerning and then we’re supposed to believe that everything is absolutely fine right now when we were receiving conflicting medical reports from both the White House chief of staff mark meadows and some of the physicians that we’re hearing at Walter reed. Now, I don’t think that we should be making any large political decisions when the president is in such a perilous — in such a perilous medical state. He is still receiving interventions in treatments and we’re in the middle of talking about and making dramatic decisions about what is happening with the COVID stimulus. Not only that, but he’s also directly conflicting himself today. He retweeted the federal chairman Jerome Powell, which is saying that Congress cannot do enough when it comes to critical economic indicators like inflation, when it looks at — when we’re looking at joblessness. There is — the fed is basically telling us that there is no program too big that we could authorize. We cannot effectively spend enough right now. And the president retweeted that while also saying that he’s going to walk away from relief. He is absolutely and the entire White House staff. And by the way, every single Republican senator that is enabling him — this is also about Lindsey Graham. This is about Mitch McConnell. This is about Susan Collins. And yes, this is about making sure that we elect — rather that our Republican senators who are enabling this are allowing our economy to risk free fall because if we had a veto-proof majority in the Senate, we could get this done without him. But the Senate Republicans don’t want to pass a COVID stimulus bill either. And that’s why we are in the position that we are in today.”

MADDOW: “Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York. It’s a pleasure to have you with us tonight. Thank you. Stay safe.”

Rusty Weiss

Rusty Weiss is a freelance journalist focusing on the conservative movement and its political agenda. He has been writing conservatively charged articles for several years in the upstate New York area, and his writings have appeared in the Daily Caller, American Thinker,, Big Government, the Times Union, and the Troy Record. He is also Editor of one of the top conservative blogs of 2012, the Mental Recession.

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